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I...this should not be a thing that gets paid bots. This should be a recall
Ooh I love it.
2-5. And 5 is only acceptable at a BBQ
The number of people telling stories in my mentions of their single income households without realizing that they're describing the perfect set up for criminal crimes. You need to ask some questions bookie.
This sounds like Anderson Cooper's salary....
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Mom worked at a gallery part time and did some bookkeeping....the art world is for money laundering. My granny ran numbers, who I am to judge? Try being honest about the income though, because I know my grandparents weren't making it off one income even if she was at home every day.
Also if one more person describes a parent who had a job that was definitely tied to crime...like I get it, you think Daddy was a traveling salesman who just happened to go from Miami to New York regularly. That's sweet. He was moving weight though...
The number of people who responded to my thread with "We only had one income" only to describe an income that would not have been considered a middle class wage at the time...
White middle class Americans with the help of the GI bill. And two incomes.
You made the equivalent of 6 figures in today's wages so...
That's what's happening now and I don't think they understand inflation at all
Archie was a veteran and they could only afford the house because of the GI bill. She was only a homemaker the first season or two and IIRC that was painted as a new thing because she had a prior job that ended. From 1974 on her job comes up relatively regularly.
They were, because they couldn't afford to live on their own
They didn't count cottage industry. So if you look at the census data for earnings, women earned less but they still had earnings. BLS does a weird thing where they don't count paid caretaking/other domestic labor in the same way. www2.census.gov/prod2/popsca...
Wasn't the concession that they started to mention on screen that she was a freelance writer and artist?
Just had someone say Edith didn't work on All in The Family...one of the very special episodes was about her losing her job because she didn't stop a patient's suicide IIRC. You don't remember them working because it wasn't presented as onerous like the men working. That's the whole point
Edith had a part time job for most of the show as a caretaker at senior citizen's home and later was a partner in the tavern. IIRC she did the books for the tavern the same way she had done them for a plumbing company she worked for, and still had a caretaker job at a mental health facility.
Yeah and the books are sanitized, I think it was more times than that
Even for Silent and Greatest Gen it was piecework or lessons or cooking/cleaning for another wealthier household. The handful of Boomer that might have tried it got betrayed by divorce or the various recessions. The poverty data is brutally honest about women who leave the workforce
And listen your Granny lied for your Granddaddy's ego, but US census data doesn't give a damn about his feelings. Women have always worked because that's the norm.
We all think we know the finances of our elders. We probably don't. But ask your grandma about the years she didn't work. And prepare to find out she has a social security check of her own because she did in fact work. Or she had cottage industry income. You just didn't know about it.
And I know there will be outliers, but truthfully your outliers will have inherited/won/found money you don't know about that made it possible. Or they earned far more than average. My grandfather was the only one working outside the home. My granny ran numbers and managed the building they lived in
The store is Mrs. Oleson's and Nels acts the way he does because he knows he married up. Hell Charles Ingalls is not who keeps the family afloat (in reality that man was a damned fool) it is Caroline's constant production of everything from eggs to sell to pies to sewing that keeps them alive
And I get why people think it happened. There was a cultural pressure to preserve egos that meant families didn't really talk about the pin money. Little House on the Prairie has an excellent scene with Mrs Oleson and Nellie about the importance of women having their own even in the 1800s.
Most common was a situation where the lower earning partner did work that wasn't recognized as work. Tutoring, sewing, laundry, domestic labor that people perceive now as worthless. It brought in 20 to 40% of the household income. And often the land or furnishings for that house came from her.
Leave It To Beaver is probably the most common reference point for this and in the pilot they make it clear she's from Kentucky horse money. She has a trust fund. And in a time when the average white man earned 5K a year, he earned over 20K a year. That's around 200K in today's numbers.
Roseanne was a decent representation of the common white American experience financially. Two incomes, a revolving set of debts and an expectation that everyone pitch in. Even the 50's & 60's TV shows that created this mythos were explicitly highlighting the lives of men making 5 times the average
This didn't happen. The perception that it did is largely based on fictional shows that were about rich people. Much more common was a household where one person (theoretically Dad in a het household) was the higher earner and paid the housing costs and the other paid utilities & food