Det er umiddelbart en større radar med 3 faste antenner , dvs lidt højere update rate end GFs ene roterende antenne . Og fordi det er en C-bånds radar har den højere opløsning og bedre diskrimination end GF som er S-bånd. Rækkevidden er til gengæld nok nogenlunde ens.
Det er svært at sige, det er ret begrænset med offentligt tilgængelige oplysninger på de respektive systemer. Det sagt , selv om Ground Fire helt sikker er en kapabel radar så tror jeg at Patriots nye LTAMDS/ GhostEye er et nøk bedre.
Det kommer helt an på hvilken version af Patriot der er tale om. Siden 2017 har de nye versioner været udstyret med en 360° AESA radar som er meget bedre end SAMP/Ts Arabel PESA radar. Derfor er Arabel skiftet ud med en Ground Fire AESA i SAMP/T NG.
Are you even sure they will be made available for export to allied nations ?
Prisen virker fuldstændig uhyrlig🤔....over 240 millioner € pr flystel, det er næsten 2.5 gange så meget som vi betalte for de første 27 F-35. Det kan ikke passe, der må være noget andet med i den pris, fx P8 eller en stor våbenpakke.
Har du evt en forklaring @karstenmarrup.bskye.social
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Det er lidt trist hvis JSM bliver det eneste strike våben vi anskaffer. JSM kan kun med nød og næppe klassificeres som langtrækkende og har et beskedent sprænghoved på kun 120kg . Fint til skibe og små bløde landmål men ikke til større hærdede strategiske mål, som fx broer o.a infrastruktur.
Nej de fleste slæbesonarsystemer i dag består af både en aktiv sonar transmitter(e) og et passivt hydrofonkabel.
Aktiv sonar er traditionelt blevet benyttet i snævert farvand , med lav dybde og stor baggrundsstøj men bliver i stigende grad også brugt til ASW på åbent vand.
Absalon klassens relativt høje "egen-støj" er faktisk et kæmpe handicap ift ASW på åbent og dybt vand som i nordatlanten. Det betyder dog mindre i et støjende farvand som østersøen hvor passiv sonar er stort set ubrugeligt.
Integrationsmæssig giver det mening med ACTAS og den har sikkert også været billig. Fin til østersøen/Nordsøen men med sine kun ~60km rækkevidde ikke meget bevendt på dybt vand i Nordatlanten. Og så er det vel lige frisk nok at kalde det "ny" teknologi, når den er over 20 år gammel🤔
Industrially the NVL proposal makes even less sense . Aside from integration of the CUBE modules(which will be included regardless of which design we end up with) , there is basically zero involvement from 🇩🇰 industry. When we are fully capable of designing our own ships , this is a none-starter
The critical issues experienced by the 🇩🇰 frigate in the red sea were caused by a weapon systems failure (ie a mk56 missile launcher). The minor hiccup between the FCS and CMS were quickly and easily rectified, so dont see integration as a problem.
Illumination of what missiles ?...by the time the Huitfeldt replacements hits the water , our missile inventory will be mostly active missiles with S-band up/downlink .
APAR 2 might be an improvement but its still a tiny X-band radar , one with limited utility in an age of active (s-band guided) active missiles. The NS200 is a decent medium range radar but has no or only limited BMD capability.
Interesting proposal but essentially dead on arrival. Both in terms of size & capability it is not relevant to the RDNs requirement for a large BMD capable AAW frigate. Also the GMF-120 is too fugly for danish tastes imo.
Det der for mig er sværest at forsvare er at der var dobbelt så mange danskere i tysk tjeneste som i allieret og at danske militærfolk kun i meget begrænset omfang deltog i krigen på allieret side. Det er sgu lidt svært at være rigtig stolt af.
and realistic testing of all weapon systems have overall been totally inadequate. A slightly "better" designed frigate wouldnt have changed any of that. We can only hope that the navy have now finally woken up and started taken this seriously
in the 47 years since we got the Harpoon we have NEVER fired a warshot, NEVER conducted or participated in a SINKEX Never had a realistic missile defence live fire exercise or tested our air defence systems against a supersonic target ...
To them chasing pirates was the most dangerous thing we would ever do and actual naval combat was just something we were playing so it didnt matter if things worked or not. This was not a new attitude either .....
Ofc the politicians is ultimately responsible for underfunding the navy for decades, however the navy leadership is just as much to blame. In my years in the navy i never met or heard a single higher ranking (Commander or higher) officer who took the threat of actual warfighting serious.
& again , the problems in the RS had nothing to do with the design of the ship or any of the 🇩🇰 systems on board .
That the "faults" in the Mk56 launchers & the 76mm shell fuzes wasnt discovered sooner,was 100% the fault of the navy for not doing proper(& enough) realistic live fire exercises.
Havent even mentioned the US ?...Wrt our ability to design a modern warship, including a 🇩🇰 CMS & other equipment , we have everything that is required , both in terms of experience and technical know-how. That isnt optimism but reality.
The australian T26 based Hunter class was overweight due to a much heavier weapons and sensor fitout( since fixed by enlarging the beam and stretching the hull) However the RN spec T26 is nowhere near overweight and has large growth margins left. Norway will go for T26 not FDI.
All due respect to the good Corporal , but warships is clearly not his area of expertise and therefore seems easily impressed.
Many of FDI's design choices are similar to our frigates and they use the same ( poor ) justifications to mask that they have only been built to save money ( and crew )
Wrt T31,it was born as tier 2 yes, but will now be equipped like a proper GP frigate( and its Polish & Indonesian derivatives will be tier 1 combatants with full AAW and ASW suites) 3/3
and have spawned 4 separate frigate classes all based on their designs. That cannot be called anything but a resounding success. As for the Red Sea incident that was due to an unknown fault in a US supplied missiler launcher and obsolete shell fuzes and nothing to do with the actual ship design.2/3
It cant, regardless of what the french say. Point is it doesnt have to be a disaster for either the navy or industry. We have sold several second hand danish warships and warship designs. The Absalon /Iver Huitfeldt classes have given stellar service for 15 years or more ...1/3
It would be a huge mistake. FDI is an oversize corvette with no room to grow.(and would be a disaster for 🇩🇰 industry too) What we need are large modern frigates in the 7-9.000t range.
Mest i DK.....den er kendt for at være meget dyr i drift også i andre lande, og producenten har været for dårlig til at sikre leverance af reservedele. Men en stor del at problemerne i 🇩🇰 tjeneste skyldes kronisk underfinansering og en underdimensioneret støttestruktur.
Dem skal de nu nok blive glade for i MHV, i deres nye rolle som hjemmeværnskuttere😈
Jeg kan ikke tale for hele Forsvaret men i Hæren har man i hvert fald haft en massiv erfaringsudveksling og adskillelige officerer i 🇺🇦 for at lære om russernes måde at føre krig på. Så min fornemmelse er faktisk at vi er ret godt med.
