New Substack. What’s the future for Labour? Or is there one? Has the future halted? open.substack.com/pub/mbatangs...
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New Substack. What’s the future for Labour? Or is there one? Has the future halted? open.substack.com/pub/mbatangs...
but you’re overstating how much they cared about ethnic selection. (In fact the same studies you cite - and I know because I’ve read them - also find that). And the fact it became more liberal further supports that too
Yeah but this is classic Bluesky “they’re racist”. They didn’t give a shit about there people came from. Sure, you can find people prefer some countries than others (when factor skills it changes and when you ask about skills of nationality it’s different).
Both. Backlash to backlash. But with Brexit, leavers became more positive and more liberal. the reason was because they thought free movement was over. The salience fell and attitudes became positive. 2022/23 Britain was more pro immigration than it had ever been.
Because of Brexit. That’s why. And the boats saw it fall.
Completely different from the Mandelson news. Assisted suicide bill is going through the Lords. open.substack.com/pub/mbatangs...
Somewhere vs Anywheres was overdone. He even makes the point in the book. It’s not as clear cut as Anywhere vs Sonewhere in a straightforward sense. There’s an Inbetweener Group, But you see similar points in Lasch, Guilloy, Pikketty, WVS, Rodrik, Shor. And correlates with segmentation and polling.
Yes. And then cabinet office minister.
Yeaaaah. He wasn’t but he was. Attending Cabinet is Cabinet, really.
Nah. Lord True is there. And Chris Philp.
Slightly strange message there.
New Substack: The Moral Case Against Robert Jenrick. open.substack.com/pub/mbatangs...
Sonia is right.
I think there’s space for pluralism on a deeper philosophical level. If you remember, Cruddas and Rutherford actually begin with Compass/Soundings. The soft left produced Blairism/New Labour. I also don’t know what these terms mean Beyond level of vibes. Read France’s’ piece.
David Cameron had Gerald Howarth as a defence minister for two years. In the Coalition. Andrew Rossindell was a shadow minister under Cameron.
Yup. It’s a good article from Frances. Quite nuanced.
I don’t like the guy or the SCG. But it’s obvious that members of the soft hard left have served in Labour govts. Jon Trickett (although pre-SCG days) was PPS to Peter Mandelson and then PPS to Gordon Brown.
Michael Meacher and Chris Mullin served in th Blair govt (with Meacher in shadow cabinet and attending cabinet). Clare Short was in Cabinet for 6 years. Ken Livingstone was offered a job in 1998.
What’s wrong with that? All motherhood and apple but there’s nothing wrong with it Per se.
Burnham would be able to win a Greater Manchester seat.
Yeah but come on. Not worth pretending the public dont think what they think. They know parents who are universal credit are poor and the kids are in poor households.
I have a friend for instance - an assistant headteacher in a grammar school in South East England - who has radicalised herself into racism and fascist apologia simply by being there. Would that be the case if liberals she took seriously were still posting on the app by which she’s addicted?
I mean I don’t want to do both sides but there has been abuse and doxxing on here towards conservatives or “heterodox” (awful term). But yes, I completely get it. And the racism is pretty bad. But it’s less the hardcore I’m concerned about. It’s the ones who give it social permission.
I’m concerned with the health of the public sphere. And I don’t like BNP bullshit coming into mainstream discourse, frankly. And a lack of norm enforcement against it.
I hear you. And not without a point. But Sam, it’s getting really bad. And it’s bad because liberals have left the scene. People are radicalising in real time, And also, people post on Tik Tok. Owned by the CCP.
Point on Blue Labour aside, it doesn’t matter. Not my point. Am agreeing that the soft left IS the mainstream tendency. And this decision reveals this isn’t a BL govt. I’m just also pointing out that the BL view on welfare is just close to where people are. Which is true.
Many of you will hate this. But I’m not one to say what I don’t think open.substack.com/pub/mbatangs...
