The complementarian interpretation, that Paul is forbidding a woman to do what a male elder ought to do, does not fit Paul’s choice of words.”– Andrew Bartlett
From: terranwilliams.com/schreiner-vs...
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[On the Greek verb authentein in 1 Timothy 2:12]:
“If this word is unsuitable to describe the proper action of a church elder, it follows that in 1 Timothy 2:12 Paul is not talking about who may properly exercise authority within the church. Instead, he is prohibiting bad behaviour.
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... It'd be way cooler if church could like be this boy's club, and the women would just be there, doing the chores while the men did the important work ...” – Gretchen Ronnevik
From: x.com/garonnevik/s...
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let's say they're doing it TOO WELL and intimidating the men, who now will become apathetic because they actually helped too well. None of the men want to do anything now, Nancy. Way to go, trying to do a good job ...
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From the Orthodox Barbie archives:
“You know what the problem with the church is? Women.There's just too many of them. It just feels so feminine. When they do things wrong, let's say that that's why they shouldn't do things, and when they do things right,
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It still hurts to want community, to open up and make the effort to build relationships. I’m still wondering — Is the body of Christ real? Are the hands and feet of Jesus something I can trust?”– Joy LaPrade
From: joylaprade.substack.com/p/is-the-bod...
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What I love is the way this story shows me Jesus, even when I might be struggling to see him in the church.
That’s what continues to give me hope. Because it’s been four years, and it’s still not easy to come to church.
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“But I see this story in John 20 as something more than Thomas and his doubt. I would like to call him something else. Maybe we call him “Traumatized Thomas” or “Grieving Thomas.”
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... According to Paul, love means thinking about the dignity of the other person and respecting them: love does not “dishonour others.”” - Lyn M. Kidson
From: engenderedideas.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/h...
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The treatment of Archbishop Goldsworthy stands in contradiction to the overall goal of 1 Timothy: “The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.” 1 Timothy 1:5 ...
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This little-known rule came to light during a visit by Archbishop Goldsworthy in 2023:
“The problem with complementarianism is that it leads to contradictions in how the Scriptures are applied.
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From the Orthodox Barbie archives:
On the Sydney Anglican diocese rule that visiting women clergy and bishops are not to have their rank recognised; rather they have to dress and operate as if they are deacons during their visit.
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... it is the consistent public mockery and disdain shown them on social media that is a matter of public record. Secondly, it is the double standard and scrutiny especially as it relates to abuse and sexism.”
– Esau McCaulley
From: esaumccaulley.substack.com/p/the-spirit...
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If we take a wider step back and consider the lay women in our province who have served in a variety of positions, there is a pattern of fatigue, burnout, and leaving posts that is plain for all to see ...
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“I worry that the church that I call home [...] has repeatedly failed the test of charity as it relates to the treatment of its female clergy in particular.
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while churchmen take years and years to weigh the same set of facts and interpretive choices that have been there all along.” – Bobby Gilles
From: bobbygilles.substack.com/p/if-we-go-f...
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We really need to go from Genesis to Junia … to your neighbor. To your neighbors’ kids [...] To girls who are growing up and sometimes leaving the church, to gifted but silenced women growing older and eventually passing away,
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“The women-in-ministry debate is certainly a matter of scriptural interpretation. But if those who limit women are wrong, then what we do with this knowledge becomes a matter of justice. This is a justice issue.
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From the Orthodox Barbie archives:
“Paul did not silence edifying speech or sound teaching. Moreover, he valued women and used the same terms - coworker, diakonos (minister), apostle, and labour/labourer words - for his male and female ministry associates.” - Marg Mowczko
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We’re so obsessed with authority that we miss the most astounding metaphors in the Bible because we’re forcing them into our ideas of hierarchy.” – Lydia Kaiser
From: baremarriage.substack.com/p/the-mislea...
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and then used those “offices” to create a hierarchy where women are excluded. In Christian homes, they can’t even imagine two people cooperating, and instead claim there has to be hierarchy.
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“The Israelites wanted a king like other nations so God let them have one even though it wasn’t his best for them. The church has insisted on fabricating “offices” (a word that’s not in the Greek anywhere in the New Testament) out of servant-type words that Paul used for fellow laborers,
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“Elder meetings are the locker rooms of complementarian churches.” – Lark Kelsey
From: www.threads.com/@larktheosis...
Biblical literalism has never been a consistent hermeneutic. It's a rhetorical strategy deployed selectively depending on who benefits from the plain reading. ” – Anthony Parrott
From: www.threads.com/@pastorparro...
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The rule is simple: context applies when scripture challenges your politics. It disappears when scripture confirms them ...
... “The Bible clearly says” when it supports your position. “Well, if you understand the Greek” when it doesn't.
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“Context is the most selectively applied tool in biblical interpretation. Passages about wealth redistribution and welcoming immigrants? “That was ancient Israel.” Passages about sexuality? Timeless and universal.
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I say this often: it’s hard to convince someone you care about their eternal home if you don’t care about their quality of life right now.” – Lisa Victoria Fields
From: www.threads.com/@lisavfields...
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“Some Christians will raise millions to send missionaries overseas so people can be their neighbors in heaven.
Yet they resist making space for those same people to be their neighbors on earth.
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God is at work, re-creating a world where sin, violence, pain, and death are no more. Where every tear is wiped away and the old order has passed away.
Unraveling complementarianism is participating in God's work to make all things new.” – Nick O’Brien
From: www.threads.com/@nickmobrien...
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