Far Centrist

I don't see why indulging you for the nth time would make a difference. Learn to read.

You should learn to read first, or alternatively learn how not to lie. Difficult for a TRA, I know.

Yawn, repeating a lie doesn't make it true.

All except women, of course. They can have rights once you are satisfied. Woe betide any woman trying to keep you and your friends out of women's spaces! Don't they know their betters?!

And again, if you don't like the answer, you pretend it isn't there.

"I don't like it, so it has to be wrong". Very on brand, again.

Just use the men's room, Richard.

And there's the one true thing you've said. It's all about you.

And the lies and smears continue. Lying for Jesus didn't work for the creationists last time, lying in service of your ideology won't help you, either

Now you're off to inventing whatever you'd like to be true, very on brand again

And even more lies.

Yawn, more lies.

And out come the smears. You simply can't help yourself, can you? It's like a defining property is trans rights activists 🤣

I've defined sex multiple times in this thread already, repeating a lie doesn't make it true.

You're deliberately mixing up the evidence for a proposition with the validity of that proposition. That's simply a bad faith argument.

Sex.

You're human, and there are maybe three cases of actually occurring ovotestes known. You are not one of them. QED.

They are fascinating cases where different organs took different pathways. And not representative of trans-identified people, thus a smoke screen.

Medicine is crude, not science. Just because we understand a biological principle doesn't mean we can control it. See e.g. viruses.

There are two pathways, and they are distinct. Come back when you can administer a pill that makes one set of organs wither away and another grow instead (+the other effects). Then you can talk about "redirecting pathways". Until you can, this is just superficial cosmetic approximation.

What are the multiple pathways with car ignitions?

The latter follows because the set of characteristics is high dimensional and fuzzy, but obviously correlated with the root cause. So we classify based on that.

No, it only means that you can't confidently say which one it is. If you don't have enough evidence to definitely prove somebody committed a crime, that doesn't mean they committed the crime "to an extent". It means the evidence is insufficient, nothing more.

Yeah that's just an outright lie. And of course a complete smoke screen because not a single one of the trans-identified men trying to enter women's spaces have ovotestes.

You're human. That is enough to prove that you breathe air, metabolise food, and developed from a fertilised ovum. There are two developmental pathways, you took one of them. Which one it was, is an empirical question.

It is the root cause, sex characteristics are downstream effects, yes. It has effects that linger, and these effects matter. Again, you're arguing as if medicine were perfect, instead of as crude as it is.

That's an empirical question, and like any question in science, solved by gathering evidence. What consequences do the developmental pathways have, and are they present and to which extent? In case of ambiguity, gather more evidence.

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You develop along the pathways because that's how you go from fertilised ovum to grown adult. This development leads to different effects for males and females, but importantly these effects also differ between individuals. That is why the cause sets the definition, and not the effects.

If you've developed along the male pathway, you go in the male category. If you develop along the female pathway, you go in the female category. Everybody develops along one pathway, because that's how you get from fertilised ovum to fully grown human, so everyone goes in one category.

I don't give a flying toss about who or what you want to be. Some things about you are true as a feature of material reality, and that doesn't change if you don't like that.

The capacity to reproduce is literally one of the criteria for life.