Tim F

This was an interesting choice.

100%. Everything now is a function of what he built, it's impossible to see it any other way given he has micro managed the club for so long. I'm not excusing the current mob's decision making, but if you are appointed captain of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg you can only do so much.

a barnstorming success at Villa.

As you say, how can we trust any decision these people make will be a good one.

I think you're spot on with everything you've said.

should have been able to avoid it.

I do wonder how much rope Vinai and Lange will be given.

Hard for us as fans though, we can watch what's happening on the pitch and have a view, but what fan of any club could say 'the Chief Exec we really need is X' or even with a DoF... Monchi was hardly

Kind words, but I'd say similar to you, I think you're spot on. I was uncomfortable with the ruthlessness of dispensing with Ange, but could see what the plan was with Frank. But the extent to which these decisions have been wrong have been so enormous that one would think that capable people

someone stops trying. Once you get to the point that you have nothing left to give; no passion, no energy, the relationship is dead.

We're close to that with Spurs and a large number of fans. Even if the football gets better, some will never forgive this.

Sorry, this got longer than intended!

Like a romantic relationship, it's sometimes true that if you're fighting with your partner - yes things aren't working and it's bad, but at least the fight is a form of passion and the energy spent is because you want things to change - the conflict is about the how. The really bad times are when

whilst desperately pretending we're not.

What's the point in £600m of revenue if you can't deploy a single pound of that money in a way that can avoid relegation, let alone winning things or reaching Europe.

The lack of ENIC our protests is what should really worry these owners.

I can see why Ange maybe can't be the guy and Forest went very badly. But surely a guy like him, a guy who can lift the players in the right moments is the answer.

I used to worry that we were trying to be Chelsea lite, but what we're doing now seems to be something closer to Watford and Forest

But I didn't know much about how he played. What's so concerning is I'd never have been happy with, say, Amorim, because he's to dogmatic about that 5 at the back formation and yet that's exactly the type of guy we have. We don't have the squad for that. We so obviously need a motivator.

questionable decisions around managerial appointments.

I have to admit, I wasn't one of the voices who was anti-Tudor when he came. I could see the logic of a guy who had experience at big clubs and saving bad seasons. I understood but was not too worried by talk of no PL experience etc.

sign of trouble, but that makes sense when you have had had a poor season and finish 9th instead of 4th... In that scenario, understand what went wrong, why things are different and what is needed to help the manager. But watching the club slide to relegation is not the moment to commit or to make

To sticking with managers who should never have been appointed in the first place (regardless of the logic) and who have proven that through awful performances coupled with awful results.

I appreciate that there has been a clear decision to aim for stability and to not make a change at the first...

What is so incredible is this huge pivot from sacking managers when they have earned some grace/patience (Poch, Jol, maybe even arguably Redknapp and AVB), effectively blaming them despite routinely leaving them without all the necessary tools to achieve the objective they've been set.

In news which shocked no-one.

the journey. Something you expect Mr 'I understand Money' Trump to understand.

The bottom line is, regardless of whether the navy get involved (which as you say, they definitely fucking won't) no tankers are going through there until their insurers say yes.

Trump seems to think whether these tankers are willing to go through the strait is a question of whether they are brave enough. (thanks for that lesson Mr Bonespurs)

Anyway, it's not remotely that, the issue, which isn't fixed by naval ships, is whether these ships' insurers will cover that part of

Unfortunately I think I may have to write a proper piece at the end of the season discussing the most shocking relegation ever seen from the top flight of English football.

I don't know what your football allegiance is, but it's been particularly flattering to hear kindness from non-Spurs fans.

Thanks Vin, you're certainly right about the anguish.

It's easier to talk about the past than predict the future, but I wrote this now thinking that it would be less prescient/appropriate if we stay up.

Maybe a heart over head outlook.

It just wasn't the right moment and the damage to him from this will be huge.

If this was a game of Football Manager, people would be saying it's not realistic at all.

The worst part is, I can't see where the next win is coming from.

Another totally mad game in which Spurs lose in new and increasingly far fetched ways.

6 losses in a row for the first time ever. But that doesn't come close to telling the whole story.

Hard to begin to get your head around this.

You're not wrong. He's also obviously been told to use his pace less to minimise the risk to his hamstrings.

Even if they slip, they're inevitably going to be more used to the surface and more alive to the potential of it happening.

Head has totally gone.

This is what's driving me mad, nothing appears to have changed at all.

Pass from Romero to VdV a minute or two ago was so lazy and ultimately so dangerous.

I actually think Danso may be our best defender at present.

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It wasn't a free kick, it was a dive, but whatever.

Kolo Muani so deep he's having to run the ball from his own box. The entire set up of the team is nonsense.

There's no outlet and no creativity.