So what company would meet you moral standards? 🤔

I assume you have a list?

That’s ok. You’ve got Amazon running yours! Totally dependable and not a major Trump backer or has a fascist adjacent billionaire in charge! 🤣

You should have reported him to the police then! I assume you had evidence? Or did you just mean “didn’t like”??🤔

Means tested so we weren’t giving it to millionaires & well off pensioners. 🙄

We aren’t. Clearly.
Have we bombed Iran? No.

Are the bombers launched from UK Airbases doing anything other than taking out the missile sites Iran is using to attack military and civilian targets in the region? No.

You have a bizarre definition of “lie”, meaning “not a lie, but I hate Starmer”! 🤦

Yes.

Ever hear of a baseless accusation?

You do love reposting the same articles that fail to prove your claim, don’t you!
Again, and for the last time, no one has denied Starmer knew that Mandelson knew Epstein!
Starmer has never said he was unaware of a connection to Epstein, it’s the details which came out in the files are the issue!!

From Private eye:

Sort of, except he didn’t know he was a crook, just that he had a distasteful friendship.

And yet you insist he’s lying!

Utterly bizarre argument

Reposting the same flawed, fringe opinion pieces doesn’t make them more persuasive you know! 🙄

Good god I’m embarrassed for you!

‘Starmer lied because he took £200 a year off Jeremy Clarkson!’ 🤦

Were any pensioners still getting it? Yes.

Then it wasn’t “got rid of”, was it!

Ffs that’s weak, even for you!

Any evidence they have misused data in the UK? Broken any laws?

Anything other than Theil being a fascist shit?

LT: “you don’t think that’s significant though”

BM: “no”

We could do it with other tools, but...

Can you imagine NHS trusts trying to achieve the same objectives by building/procuring their own solutions. The costs would be way higher, result is less secure solutions, with nightmare integrations, and cost even more in maintenance in the long run.

And we know they didn’t because…..

He also repeats the misrepresentation of the “£22bn black hole”, claiming KS & RR said they knew nothing about it.

That’s not what they were talking about!
The £22bn hole was from the NI cut.
They were talking about the £40bn hole the tories hid, which Labour only discovered on taking power.

My god you’re gullible!

The author of this list includes Starmer “giving the impression he wouldn’t get rid of” the WFA (they didn’t, they means tested it).
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I’m really not!

They have been employed to do a job. That contract DOES NOT include ownership or use of patient data.

If I build a car park, the people parking there don’t hand over ownership of their cars to me when they park there!

There are laws they have to obey!

Again. Starmer doesn’t say he didn’t know about the links to Epstein, he said he didn’t know the “depth & darkness” of that relationship (because that only became clear when the Epstein files were released).

You REALLY struggle with either facts or language don’t you.!?!

Apologies. I had you confused with a different tankie.

You claimed it was ok that Zack lied, but also that Starmer lied - you don’t seem clear on exactly what Starmer lied about though 🤷

Yes, he was warned there was a reputational risk in appointing him.

When did Starmer claim he wasn’t told that?

From this article:

The “lies” you can’t actually evidence?

Ok, sure! 👌 🤦

“We’ve done it a couple of times” (0.08)

The quote below (0.09-0.15)

Why adopt this bizarre defence when ZP literally says it in the first 15 seconds of the interview??🤦

www.bbc.co.uk/news/article...

This discussion started because there was a post pointing out 2 mutually exclusive statements made by ZP.

You claimed this wasn’t an instance of him lying.

I asked for similar evidence Starmer had lied.

So far you’ve posted inferences & conspiracy theories.

Show a clear example of KS lying.

That’s fine, but it doesn’t prove anything, since he was aware of the previous relationship, as much info as was available at the time.

Again, Starmer has not denied that at any point.

So what is it you think he’s lying about exactly?

Because they were awarded by the Tories & it makes economic sense to not get rid of them, go through a full procurement process & redevelop the existing system, when they are trying to rebuild & modernise the NHS (& fix the rest of the country)!

Do you not think it’s telling that the only ‘evidence’ you appear to be able to provide are fringe publications and lunatic YouTube channels?

He said he did, did he lie?

England hasn’t “handed over patient data” either! 🤦