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Botanist. Evolutionary biologist. Associate Professor and Herbarium Director, LSU. Passionate about plants, inclusive mentoring, and puzzles. I don't know what I'm doing here. https://www.lagolab.net
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But Iβve told you my experience as a beginner-level birder is not that ππ.
You havenβt groked that I am not an intermediate or advanced user/birder? You are telling me a tool that I find usefulβ¦ is not useful for me?
Those red-crested cardinals were cool though? (Sort of sarcastic but also notβ¦)
My experience in our interaction is you would like to invalidate my enthusiasm and learning about birds that Merlin has cultivated, because you are opposed to it in all use cases. That sentiment can impact who feels comfortable identifying as a birder. That is what I mean by gatekeeping.
I saw a native cotton species and a native subspecies of bracken fern, and a couple cultivated Metrosideros. Two plants, in a week of vacation.
I was so sad visiting Hawaii. Almost all the plants, like all the birds, are invasive and completely out of place in Hawaii, with natives now largely restricted to those high montane habitats. From what I learned, above the temperatures where avian malaria devastated the native birds too π.
Maybe? Maybe not? Iβm not birder or a gatekeeper π.
Weβre back to that professional vs hobbyist distinction again. Those are different contexts- of course one shouldnβt use Merlin with its high error rate in many research contexts! Thatβs inappropriate use of a tool, not anything inherently to the tool.
Yaaasss!!
Wow, that is powerful. What an ethereal recording too, if that was the one you used. But even if not, what it signifies is so very sad.
Merlin results with orange-crowned warbler, house finch, white-throated sparrow, yellow-rumped warbler, tufted titmouse, and downy woodpecker
Merlin results with downy woodpecker, northern parula, blue-gray gnatcatcher, Carolina wren, cedar waxwing, and northern cardinals.
I did my #TenMinuteMerlin! I concentrated on the parula, cause I particularly donβt know that oneβs deal yet. But you can see why my backyard got me into noticing birds.
Lol I lovvve that level of dedication! And honestly that sounds pretty delightful.
I say, to each their own, especially when it comes to a hobby that doesnβt harm anyone else! I guess we disagree on that!
Woah, mad respect- both of those seem entirely more inconvenient than a sleek app!
I mean, the drawings are being handed to me and the colors are being prescribed. Itβs a shortcut that allows me to focus on the bits Iβm trying to cultivate (painting). Kind of like Merlin does in my backyard birding (birdsong).
And then people (me) have the agency to take that information and learn! Or not (the birding boogeymen you keep invoking).
Oh, you would hate how Iβm approaching my new watercolor hobby and Iβm not even kidding lolβ¦
Thanks for your scicomm and your approach to birding! I suspect your #TenMinuteMerlin posts were initially what got me sitting outside on a nice day just seeing who shows up, as opposed to trying to figure out a specific call. And Baton Rouge gives!
Itβs okay if someone elseβs goals arenβt aligned with yours. Maybe you need to establish a Merlin-free bird club where you arenβt bothered by the way others approach their hobby. There might be demand.
I share your perspective! And sorry for engaging. I was finding it quite entertaining to call out clearly bad faith or gatekeeping arguments, but RIP your notifications. Sorry π.
I donβt think thatβs true, youβre not giving fourth grad you enough grace.
Merlin would have been a really helpful tool for third grade you!
Thatβs so good for you! You must be a natural!
And to be clear, I donβt have anything against learning fieldmarks! Like many other Merlin users, Iβll read the info about the bird and sometimes pull out my Sibley guide. But most the time I just want to know who is serenading me.
Thatβs not my implication. Iβm trying to say that even with my positionally in close proximity to so very many birders and ornithologists, I donβt have access to easy training in birding. But I have a cell phone and a free app!
Sigh, this is all so very gatekeep-y.
Okay, weβre done here. Thatβs absolutely not a good faith extension of this conversation.
And for what itβs worth, I have used Merlin on dog walksβ probably while picking up dog poop. There can be nature in then quotidian!
Justice for beginners who may only be interested in the names attached to the noise (me)!!
Youβre made a broad statement about the utility of Merlin, and Iβm sensing that your specific criticism is that my wildlife ecologists use it as a crutch? My friend, wildlife ecologists are not beginners. And I gather from social media that identifying as a birder alone results in gatekeeping π.