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Linux Kernel Developers Debate Dropping Itanium (ia64) Architecture Support for Good Linux kernel developers are pushing to remove Intel Itanium (ia64) architecture support entirely. With no active...

#AIDeveloper #Intel #Itanium #removal #Itanium #ia64 […]

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HP-UX hits end-of-life today, and I’m sad – OSnews

Dooch… #HPUX has been axed forever.
www.osnews.com/story/144094...
#UNIX #POSIX #LINUX #BSD #illumos #Solaris #AIX #HPE #HP #HewlettPackard #HewlettPackardEnterprise #Workstations #Servers #FOCUS #M68k #PARISC #Itanium

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Sucks that #Itanium is still so hard to emulate

Furthest thing, ski, can boot a specially compiled Linux kernel and userspace and that's about it.

Not to mention that even that is McKinley (Itanium 2) only. So much juicy history is stuck on Merced devkits which are almost as rare as a Apple I.

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Athlon 64: How AMD turned the tables on Intel Better 32-bit performance was worth trading some 64-bit performance to get

“Athlon 64: How AMD Turned The Tables On Intel”, Dave Farquhar (dfarq.homeip.net/athlon-64-ho...).

Via HN: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4537...

On Lobsters: lobste.rs/s/idcny5/ath...

#Intel #AMD #Athlon #Itanium #CPU #Hardware #x86 #IA64 #ISA

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The Long Mode Chronicles How the World Became x86-64 Inside

A nice account of how #Intel spent far too much time & money with #HP on the doomed #Itanium 64-bit #CPU, only to be beaten by #AMD with #Athlon (with help from #Microsoft):

“The Long Mode Chronicles”, Phil Park (computerparkitecture.substack.com/p/the-long-m...).

#Hardware #x86 #IA64

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Intel's fabled Itanium refuses to die, but the end is probably near — deprecation of IA-64 support is back on the chopping block in GCC version 16 Maintainers are discussing whether or not to remove IA-64 support from the GCC compiler once again. If their plans go through, IA-64 support could be dropped for GCC 16.

Intel's fabled Itanium refuses to die, but the end is probably near — deprecation of IA-64 support is back on the chopping block in GCC version 16 #Technology #Hardware #Microprocessors #Intel #Itanium #GCC

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"Poulson: An 8 Core 32nm Next Generation Intel Itanium Processor"

Back then, when Itanium still was a thing. Presentation from HotChips 23 (2011): old.hotchips.org/wp-content/u... #vintagecomputing #itanium #intel

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#itanium #T2SD #technology #cpu #meme

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#Intel #itanium #alpha #mips Intel's ttanium processor scared the tech industry into abandoning other promising architectures. Especially Digital's alpha. TikTok video by Zigurd Mednieks

#Intel #itanium #alpha #mips Intel's ttanium processor scared the tech industry into abandoning other promising architectures. Especially Digital's alpha. www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2NEts6h/

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#AI #vliw #itanium #transmeta Can deep learning AI redeem VLIW? Optimizing compilers are a promising area for AI. TikTok video by Zigurd Mednieks

#AI #vliw #itanium #transmeta Can deep learning AI redeem VLIW? Optimizing compilers are a promising area for AI. www.tiktok.com/t/ZT28vTo1P/

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graph. Secfp2000/Ghz versus Frequency. The Itanium is > 1200 SPEC @ 1,2-1,8Ghz the Pentium 4 is rated at about 300@2-3Ghz

graph. Secfp2000/Ghz versus Frequency. The Itanium is > 1200 SPEC @ 1,2-1,8Ghz the Pentium 4 is rated at about 300@2-3Ghz

The Itanium 2 was a pretty fast architecture !
#vintage #computing #retrocomputer #microprocessor #itanium #HPC #Intel #HP

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GitHub - johnny-mnemonic/linux-ia64: Linux fork with IA-64 support re-added. See http://t2sde.org/ for an Itanium-enabled Linux distribution Linux fork with IA-64 support re-added. See http://t2sde.org/ for an Itanium-enabled Linux distribution - johnny-mnemonic/linux-ia64

🦾 Linux-ia64: Linux fork with IA-64 support re-added.

#linux #kernel #itanium

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GCC 15 Un-Deprecates Itanium IA-64 Linux Support The GCC 14 compiler marked Itanium IA-64 support as obsolete with plans to remove that Intel architecture in GCC 15

🦾 GCC 15 Un-Deprecates Itanium IA-64 Linux Support
— Phoronix

#gcc #compilers #itanium

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Gentoo Linux drops IA-64 (Itanium) support – Gentoo Linux News and information from Gentoo Linux

#Gentoo #Linux drops IA-64 #Itanium support

www.gentoo.org/news/2024/08...

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I submitted a crazy low offer (relative to market) on an Itanium server and won. The collection of shitty computer architectures that can run Windows is complete!

Get ready for some #PowerShell and #VBScript on #Itanium, folks!

(I also have an AlphaStation, Alpha architecture)

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Linux 6.7: Hello Intel IFS and Meteor Lake, goodbye Itanium While CPU enablement and improvement is a big part of the new Linux 6.7 release, networking is in the mix as well.

#Linux 6.7: Hello Intel IFS and Meteor Lake, goodbye #Itanium
www.sdxcentral.com/articles/new...

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Will Linux on Itanium be saved? Absolutely not It's doomed to sink... but the how and why is interesting

Will #Linux on #Itanium be saved? Absolutely not

www.theregister.com/2023/11/21/s...

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The push to save Itanium It is (relatively) easy to add code to the kernel; it tends to be much harder to remove that code later. The most recent example of this dynamic can be seen in the story of the ia64 ("Itanium") archi...

The push to save #Itanium
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Intel’s failed 64-bit Itanium CPUs die another death as Linux support ends Intel stopped selling the last Itanium processors in 2021.

#Intel’s failed 64-bit #Itanium CPUs die another death as #Linux support ends

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023...

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IBM AIX for IA64 (Itanium) aka Project Monterey runs again! <p><em>(This is a guest post by Antoni Sawicki aka Tenox)</em></p> <div class="wp-block-image"> <figure class="aligncenter size-full"><img alt="" class="wp-image-11980" decoding="async" height="171" sizes="(max-width: 464px) 100vw, 464px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/monterey_logo.jpeg" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/monterey_logo.jpeg 464w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/monterey_logo-300x111.jpeg 300w" width="464"/></figure></div> <p><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Monterey">Project Monterey</a></strong> was an attempt to unify the fragmented Unix market of the 90s in to a single, cross vendor Unix OS that would run on the upcoming <strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium">Intel Itanium</a></strong> (and others) CPU. The main collaborators were: <strong>IBM</strong>, who brought its <strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_AIX">AIX</a></strong>, <strong>SCO</strong> brought <strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnixWare">UnixWare</a></strong>, <strong>HP</strong> was supposed to bring parts of <strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP-UX">HP-UX</a></strong> and <strong>Sequent</strong> <strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DYNIX">DYNIX/ptx</a></strong>. Ironically the project shared fate of the Itanium processor – it totally failed. In the end Linux took spot of the “single Unix OS”. IBM <a href="http://osarchive.org/os/linux/ibm-lvm.pdf">donated</a> pieces of AIX to Linux instead and the main legacy of Project Monterey was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_Group,_Inc._v._International_Business_Machines_Corp.">the famous SCO vs IBM lawsuit</a>.</p> <div class="wp-block-image"> <figure class="aligncenter size-full"><img alt="" class="wp-image-11990" decoding="async" height="397" sizes="(max-width: 439px) 100vw, 439px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/monterey_roadmap.png" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/monterey_roadmap.png 439w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/monterey_roadmap-300x271.png 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/monterey_roadmap-332x300.png 332w" width="439"/></figure></div> <p>A little known fact, IBM did however produce AIX version for the Itanium architecture! According to Wikipedia, some 30+ licenses were sold in 2001-2002. For years a dedicated group of individuals were trying to locate a copy of the legendary OS. As time passed it seemed that the OS was lost forever.</p> <p>…until some 21 years later friends of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/NCommander">NCommander</a> checked in with a set of AIX5L IA64 CDROMS! The CDs have now been dumped and you can download them <a href="https://archive.org/details/aix-ia64">here</a>. Unfortunately downloading will not get you any closer to actually running this. As of today no publicly available virtualization or emulation platform can boot this. Yes we tried <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simics">Simics</a>, looked at <a href="https://qemu.mercurysquad.com/">QEMU IA64</a> and XEN/KVM for IA64, etc. The OS will not boot on modern Itanium 2 (McKinley) CPUs, only the early “pre-release” <strong>Itanium 1</strong> aka <strong>Merced</strong>. The only emulator allegedly capable of doing so was the super elusive unobtanium called <a data-id="http://osarchive.org/os/aix/5.1ia64/misc/softsdv.pdf" data-type="URL" href="http://osarchive.org/os/aix/5.1ia64/misc/softsdv.pdf">Intel SoftSDV</a>.</p> <p>It’s currently speculated that AIX5L IA64 will work on and only on so called <em>Intel Software Development Vehicle (SDV)</em> sometimes referred to as <em>Intel Engineering Sample</em>. You can see the original system overview <a href="http://osarchive.org/os/aix/5.1ia64/misc/merced_system_over_final2.pdf">here</a>.</p> <figure class="wp-block-image size-full is-resized"><img alt="" class="wp-image-14992" decoding="async" height="828" loading="lazy" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv1.jpg" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv1.jpg 640w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv1-232x300.jpg 232w" style="width:269px;height:auto" width="640"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Intel Engineering Sample, image courtesy @RetroHoosk</figcaption></figure> <figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img alt="" class="wp-image-14990" decoding="async" height="443" loading="lazy" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv2-1024x443.jpg" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv2-1024x443.jpg 1024w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv2-300x130.jpg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv2-768x332.jpg 768w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv2-1536x665.jpg 1536w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv2-2048x886.jpg 2048w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/sdv2-500x216.jpg 500w" width="1024"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Intel Engineering Sample, image courtesy @RetroHoosk</figcaption></figure> <p>Later SDV was sold under several OEM branded versions: <a href="https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/overview-ibm-intellistation-z-pro-type-6894">IBM IntelliStation Z Pro 6894</a>, <a href="https://www.openpa.net/systems/hp_i2000.html">HP i2000 Workstation</a>, <a href="https://wiki.irixnet.org/SGI-750">SGI 750</a>, Dell Precision Workstation 730 and Fujitsu-Siemens Celsius 880. They all look alike because all of them were in fact produced by Intel.</p> <figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img alt="" class="wp-image-11981" decoding="async" height="241" loading="lazy" sizes="auto, (max-width: 743px) 100vw, 743px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ItaniumWorkstations-1.png" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ItaniumWorkstations-1.png 743w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ItaniumWorkstations-1-300x97.png 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ItaniumWorkstations-1-500x162.png 500w" width="743"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Intel Itanium Software Development Vehicle Lineup</figcaption></figure> <p>The IBM Z pro is probably most suitable for running AIX. Finding one of these is no easy task. Luckily I was able to score a working HP i2000. Surprisingly AIX IA64 booted on a first try. The install went smoothly and I was able to log in!</p> <figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img alt="" class="wp-image-11982" decoding="async" height="768" loading="lazy" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8331-1024x768-1.jpeg" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8331-1024x768-1.jpeg 1024w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8331-1024x768-1-300x225.jpeg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8331-1024x768-1-768x576.jpeg 768w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8331-1024x768-1-400x300.jpeg 400w" width="1024"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">AIX 5L IA64 on HP i2000 Workstation – boot loader</figcaption></figure> <figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img alt="" class="wp-image-11983" decoding="async" height="768" loading="lazy" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8334-1024x768-1.jpeg" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8334-1024x768-1.jpeg 1024w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8334-1024x768-1-300x225.jpeg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8334-1024x768-1-768x576.jpeg 768w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/IMG_8334-1024x768-1-400x300.jpeg 400w" width="1024"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">AIX 5L IA64 on HP i2000 Workstation – logged in</figcaption></figure> <p>The OS feels like a standard AIX 5L. Nothing particularly special about it, except that it runs on Itanium. This <a href="http://osarchive.org/os/aix/5.1ia64/misc/aix5l_differences.pdf">RedBook</a> outlines differences between the Power and IA64 versions. A few most interesting facts are that: Itanium AIX uses ELF object files. There is a new device driver model called UDI (Uniform Device Interface) with it’s own <a href="http://osarchive.org/os/aix/5.1ia64/ddk.tar.lz">DDK</a>. It came from SCO UnixWare. Also according <a href="http://osarchive.org/os/aix/5.1ia64/misc/aix_itanium_early_adopters.pdf">early adopters guide</a>, AIX5L IA64 introduces JFS2 file system.</p> <p>Initially I was not able to get the onboard NIC working. AIX5L IA64 supports only two network cards:</p> <pre class="wp-block-code"><code>adapter 23100020 IBM 10/100 Mbps Ethernet PCI Adapter (23100020) adapter ae120200 10/100/1000 Base-T Ethernet PCI Adapter (ae120200) </code></pre> <p>The <a href="http://osarchive.org/os/aix/5.1ia64/misc/aix_itanium_early_adopters.pdf">AIX Itanium Early Adopters Release Notes</a> mentions a few other cards but I do not see drivers for these in the OS. The doc mentions <em>Extended Hardware Drivers CD</em> which we don’t have.</p> <p>Luckily again I was able to find a working NIC on eBay!</p> <figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img alt="" class="wp-image-11991" decoding="async" height="217" loading="lazy" sizes="auto, (max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ebaynic.png" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ebaynic.png 740w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ebaynic-300x88.png 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ebaynic-500x147.png 500w" width="740"/></figure> <p>The system comes with X11 and CDE but so far I was not able to get any GPU working beyond basic text mode. I tried many different video cards from that era but there simply doesn’t appear to be any driver in the OS except for basic VGA / <a data-id="https://www.ibm.com/docs/ssw_aix_72/kernelextension/lowfunc_term_subsys.html" data-type="URL" href="https://www.ibm.com/docs/ssw_aix_72/kernelextension/lowfunc_term_subsys.html">LFT</a>. I think the key to getting video working is the previously mentioned extended hardware drivers cd.</p> <p>Finally, if you want to read more I have found some interesting pieces on <a href="http://www.ibmfiles.com/pages/aixia64.htm">ibmfiles</a> and various mirrors <a href="http://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/ftp.software.ibm.com/aix/itanium/developer/">here</a> and <a href="http://osarchive.org/os/aix/5.1ia64">here</a>.</p> <p><strong>Update:</strong> Thanks to efforts of <strong>TRN</strong> we now have a working GCC and <a href="https://github.com/johnsonjh/AIX5-IA64">ports of lots of apps</a>!</p> <p><strong>Update 2</strong>: After going through a pile of video cards I now have local X11 and CDE!</p> <figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img alt="" class="wp-image-12017" decoding="async" height="768" loading="lazy" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_8777-1024x768.jpg" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_8777-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_8777-300x225.jpg 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_8777-768x576.jpg 768w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_8777-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_8777-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_8777-400x300.jpg 400w" width="1024"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">AIX IA64 local X11 with CDE</figcaption></figure> <p>This was the lucky winner:</p> <figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img alt="" class="wp-image-12018" decoding="async" height="202" loading="lazy" sizes="auto, (max-width: 716px) 100vw, 716px" src="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Screen-Shot-2022-10-31-at-4.39.14-PM.png" srcset="https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Screen-Shot-2022-10-31-at-4.39.14-PM.png 716w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Screen-Shot-2022-10-31-at-4.39.14-PM-300x85.png 300w, https://virtuallyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Screen-Shot-2022-10-31-at-4.39.14-PM-500x141.png 500w" width="716"/></figure> <p><strong>Update 3</strong>: SimCity is <a href="https://github.com/tenox7/micropolis/releases/download/1.0.0/sim-aix5ia64">now available</a> for AIX IA64! You will also need other stuff mentioned <a data-id="14763" data-type="post" href="https://virtuallyfun.com/2024/08/08/dux-simcity-unix-aka-micropolis-on-irix-6-5-and-aix-4-3/">here</a>.</p> <p></p>

IBM AIX for IA64 (Itanium) aka Project Monterey runs again! (This is a guest post by Antoni Sawic...

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'It's dead, Jim': Torvalds marks Intel Itanium processors as orphaned in Linux kernel Itanic sinks further beneath the waves

'It's dead, Jim': Torvalds marks Intel Itanium processors as orphaned in Linux kernel www.theregister.com/2021/02/01/linux_pulls_i... via @theregister #Linux #Torvald #Itanic #Itanium #AMD #Intel #HP #Kittson

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