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19.1/ So the Intermediate Disturbance Hypothesis is really and truly a side discussion - but here are two pieces - one academic, one blog - from Fox on its "zombie" status:
"The intermediate disturbance hypothesis should be abandoned" - www.sciencedirect.com/science/arti...
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19/ The authors' peer reviewed article is here: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/...
Though I do have to say, it is concerning to see their reference the "intermediate disturbance hypothesis." I'm fairly convinced by Jeremy Fox's argument that it's a "zombie" idea...
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18/ From Adam Calo more recently - another contribution to the #sparesharethread in the larger sense.
The authors found "when Europe’s human population crashed, plant biodiversity also plummeted"; and "As human populations recovered following the mortality shock, diversity also recovered."
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17/ I respond to his response, pointing to my book and two others
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Et fini (for now; I’ll likely add more entries in future)
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16/ Grunwald responds, pointing to his book as a longer reply (and suggesting a future conversation, which we’ve not reconnected about as yet)
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13/ #sparesharethread
(Restating Hertel et al.’s point: land sparing occurred in the past, but given lag and global trade connections, radically increased yield in Africa could likely lead to expansion, not contraction, of global ag land. Cuz of those other factors Erb, Lambin and others assess.)
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9/ I’m meant to be recovering from a flu, so the rest will be straight reskeets with no further color commentary!
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8/ The previous sentence in the piece specifically states “the interrelationship between agricultural intensification and area demand, though initially highly intuitive, cannot be substantiated when evaluated against empirical data.”
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7/Bonus addition: a 2013 piece by a different research group, Erb et al. found that “simple causal relationships between the individual processes, drivers and impacts of land-use intensification could not be established”. In fact…
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www.sciencedirect.com/science/arti...
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6/ Now some of the meat of #sparesharethread
A classic piece of land use science almost never mentioned by land sparing proponents. (For those unfamiliar: sparing here is the idea that increasing yields will “spare” more land for conservation).
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5/ #sparesharethread starts in earnest. Citations and references coming next!
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4/Last of the “on-ramp” skeets leading to my points - Grunwald feels Calo just “hand waved” away the evidence that increasing yield is necessary to head off continued rampant deforestation.
Ok, here comes the actual info for those here for that and not preparatory throat-clearing!
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3/ Third up in my #sparesharethread is a skeet replying to Grunwald, considering the original podcast interview @adamcalo.bsky.social did with @mikegrunwald.bsky.social , feeling that Calo did not respond to the quantitative points Grunwald made.
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2/Use the #sparesharethread tag to follow as I’m going to Quote-post all the entries rather than copy them anew - so it’s maybe more of a metathread than a megathread? If that turns out totally unworkable I’ll take another pass another day with copying and pasting.
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1/Feel like this #thread is useful enough to lift from replies to Grunwald and re-post for all those curious about #landsparing / #landsharing aka the “do we need to grow more food to save biodiversity & fight climate change” debate. Turns out it’s neither necessary nor sufficient. #sparesharethread
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